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והא דאמרן,
עשרה. תמניא. שיתא. ארבעה. אין בהן משום זוגי.

הרי זה כתוב רק על עשרה
אבל על שמונה שש וארבע...כתוב מפורש שיש בהם משום זוגי","807","","1144","True","True","False","","380","212.76.112.109","0","0","פסחים|קי ע"א",""),new Message("87357","87352","לדברי רב חסדא ורבה בר רב הונא","13/03/21 22:51","כט אדר","תשפ"א","22:51","אבי גרינבלט","אין בשמונה וכעה"ד בשאר","539","","1143","True","True","False","","63","77.124.115.70","0","87352","פסחים|קי ע"א",""),new Message("87358","87357","חשבתי על הכיוון הזה. אבל....","14/03/21 01:39","א ניסן","תשפ"א","01:39","מרדכי דב זינגר","זה לא שבשמונה "אין"
אלא בשמונה "יש"
ורק אם תצרף ל"שלום" אז זה לא מצטרף... ונשאר "שבע"

ואכתי קשיא לי...
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"לטובה מצטרף"
אין אפשרות להגיע לשמונה כוסות ללא ששותים שבע.","539","","1142","True","True","False","","62","77.124.115.70","0","87352","פסחים|קי ע"א",""),new Message("87366","87359","מה"ת שזה לא-מותנה בצורת הספירה","14/03/21 13:38","א ניסן","תשפ"א","13:38","מרדכי דב זינגר","מה"ת שזה לא מותנה בצורת הספירה.
אדרבא. מיירי שעל הכוס הראשונה הוא מכוון "יברכך"
שעי"ז היה יודע באיזו כוס אוחז כדי לא להתבלבל.
כמו שרבא היה מכוון "בכשורי"

כנלענ"ד

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אינך מעדיף כך ?","539","","1142","True","True","False","","62","2.52.72.220","0","87352","פסחים|קי ע"א",""),new Message("87368","87367","אז מה העניין - רבא מני כשורי ?","14/03/21 14:32","א ניסן","תשפ"א","14:32","מרדכי דב זינגר",".","807","","1142","True","True","False","","56","31.44.137.1","0","87352","פסחים|קי ע"א",""),new Message("87369","87368","זו היתה הנהגתו","14/03/21 14:34","א ניסן","תשפ"א","14:34","אבי גרינבלט","כמו שנהוג להקל באבילות , כנראה צריך באותה מידה לנהוג בזוגות וכשפים...","539","","1142","True","True","False","","54","77.124.115.70","0","87352","פסחים|קי ע"א",""),new Message("87371","87369","ברור - דלא קפיד לא קפדי...","14/03/21 15:16","א ניסן","תשפ"א","15:16","מרדכי דב זינגר","(ודקפיד... ויקיפדיא (: )
לא זאת היתה כוונתי.
מה שמפריע לי שבד"כ כשהגמרא אומרת הא דאמרן
זה על אמירה ברורה שהגמרא דיברה לעיל. ולא על דיוק...

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ובתקופה יותר מאוחרת "נכתבה"
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